Macam, I had the same exact experience but i gave it another shot in a trade show for the Diamond and man was this thing responding real fast.

Trey, I heard it will be available in 3G in the U.S. version of it, and when I said “Newbies” I meant it’s easy out of the box experiance for the new users but once you get to used to it you are limited to the options you have (except for graphics work on Mac I have to admit), on the other hand, your options is virtually unlimited with any windows or linux operated system.

Fearsome, I apologize if I sent the wrong message, but when I said “anti”, it was just my opinion on the marketing and the hype they always create (like Trey said), and when I said newbies I meant new users, and believe me I know people that never touched a computer before and the buy the iPhone and find it easy to use.

Macam, I had the same exact experience but i gave it another shot in a trade show for the Diamond and man was this thing responding real fast.

Trey, I heard it will be available in 3G in the U.S. version of it, and when I said “Newbies” I meant it’s easy out of the box experiance for the new users but once you get to used to it you are limited to the options you have (except for graphics work on Mac I have to admit), on the other hand, your options is virtually unlimited with any windows or linux operated system.

Fearsome, I apologize if I sent the wrong message, but when I said “anti”, it was just my opinion on the marketing and the hype they always create (like Trey said), and when I said newbies I meant new users, and believe me I know people that never touched a computer before and the buy the iPhone and find it easy to use.

As to the blatant hater comment. You stated you are anti-Apple. That sentiment alone leads a person to believe that no matter how good a product they might produce you will find fault with it simply out of your anti-whatever stance.

I use my iPhone at least 10x more than I used any of my winmo phones because it is so fluid and easy to use…and not because it is so easy a newbie can use it. Even people with experience want simplicity. The easier it is to perform certain task the more productive you can be…iPhone has made mobile computing not only accessible to the newbie or amateurs but to persons experienced in mobile computing that are tired of the same old same old.

People can’t seem to accept that the iPhone is a good phone. Yes, it can be better but if it weren’t already a good phone you wouldn’t be seeing these Instincts or the HTC Touch Diamond. It has completely transformed what users of smartphones expect.

Will the HTC Touch Diamond be a great phone? Maybe. I know I’m willing to play with it and see but I do know it is going to be hard to beat an already seamless experience I get with my iPhone. Especially when it comes to syncing my data with my macs and pcs.

As to the blatant hater comment. You stated you are anti-Apple. That sentiment alone leads a person to believe that no matter how good a product they might produce you will find fault with it simply out of your anti-whatever stance.

I use my iPhone at least 10x more than I used any of my winmo phones because it is so fluid and easy to use…and not because it is so easy a newbie can use it. Even people with experience want simplicity. The easier it is to perform certain task the more productive you can be…iPhone has made mobile computing not only accessible to the newbie or amateurs but to persons experienced in mobile computing that are tired of the same old same old.

People can’t seem to accept that the iPhone is a good phone. Yes, it can be better but if it weren’t already a good phone you wouldn’t be seeing these Instincts or the HTC Touch Diamond. It has completely transformed what users of smartphones expect.

Will the HTC Touch Diamond be a great phone? Maybe. I know I’m willing to play with it and see but I do know it is going to be hard to beat an already seamless experience I get with my iPhone. Especially when it comes to syncing my data with my macs and pcs.

Apple’s success isn’t in being the best hardware. It’s the best marketing, the best innovation and ease-of-use.

I don’t think it’s fair to say that Apple products are easy for “newbies and amateurs”, I have used several flavors of Linux and all flavors of Win and OSX and I wouldn’t consider myself a “newbie” or an “amateur”. I love Apple because their products just work. I don’t have to config and debug and wait ages to get things done.

I just got a 3G iPhone and it has it’s quirks. Being used to the BlackBerry there are things about the iPhone that frustrate me, but like fearsome, I am sure that Apple will sort it all out.

Apple’s success isn’t in being the best hardware. It’s the best marketing, the best innovation and ease-of-use.

I don’t think it’s fair to say that Apple products are easy for “newbies and amateurs”, I have used several flavors of Linux and all flavors of Win and OSX and I wouldn’t consider myself a “newbie” or an “amateur”. I love Apple because their products just work. I don’t have to config and debug and wait ages to get things done.

I just got a 3G iPhone and it has it’s quirks. Being used to the BlackBerry there are things about the iPhone that frustrate me, but like fearsome, I am sure that Apple will sort it all out.

This comparison is based on 5mins on each device and not an extensive test that I would normally do. But for me the iPhone does win… I just wanted to do simple procedures that I would normally do with the phones. Even texting on the iPhone was good…

iPhone 8/10
HTC Touch 5/10